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Jim Rome, Brad Rock and soccer fans

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This entry was posted on 3/21/2008 9:08 PM and is filed under uncategorized.

Ok, I wasn't going to get into this issue, but then I was listening to Rome and talking to a soccer friend on the phone who heard it in the back ground and started to chew me out. 

First, let me state, I love the Jim Rome show.  I listen every day.  I really like his takes and his show doesn't suck.  That said, I think he's wrong about soccer.  That's fine. i do find his rants even about soccer to be entertaining.  Soccer isn't for everyone, but neither is basketball.  I personally hate a game where the only the last 2 minutes really matter and the other 46 are basically pointless.   For those who are Jungle listeners, soccer fans and soccer in general really need to take a page from NASCAR in dealing with Rome.  He originally hated NASCAR, and was not afraid to say it on air.  Now he's a NASCAR fan.  What changed?  Well, first, enough of his listeners are NASCAR fans and instead of just tuning him out and throwing up a wall, kept talking about NASCAR, enough to make him understand that his audience (customers if you want to really look at it) demanded he cover NASCAR.  The other thing that won him over is that NASCAR worked with him.  Whenever he wanted a NASCAR driver on the show, they called, called on time and were great interviews.  One thing to understand about Rome, he hates interviews that are just one tired cliche after another and just average.  He likes interviews that are not the same tired stuff over and over.  Either be really good, or really bad, but be different.  Soccer has not made much of an approach to Rome.  The only soccer person to really show up on Rome's show is Eric Wynalda, who is annoying as hell.  Yes he was a great player, but that was like 15 years ago.  I think it's more of an indication of soccer in America that there really aren't that many personalities in the sport who are American and have personality.  Who is he going to get, Landon Donovan?  About the only American player I can think of who would be the type of interview Rome wants is Clint Dempsey and even then that's not a great match.  Otherwise, there really isn't a good personality in MLS or on the US national team who would show some good personality. 

Brad Rock's article in the Deseret News also raised some hackles in the soccer community.  Again, really look what he talked about.  Is RSL in financial trouble?  Good question, from what I gather, yes they are a bit. Is Sandy really the best choice for a stadium?  Probably not, in fact, a lot of what he really is saying is the same things that were said by a lot of the soccer fans in Utah about Sandy.  Talking about Beckham being more interested in being on Entertainment Tonight has been thrown around the soccer community too, the Fox Football Fone-in people have talked about and wanted him on their show.  The Beckham circus is less about soccer than it is about selling the Beckham brand.  And his take about RSL being bad, well, really he's not too far off on that one too.  I think really his only blast about soccer was talking about the 0-0 scoreline.  Ok, fine, if your attention span is so short it requires you to see someone score every 30 seconds to hold your attention, maybe you need to be on Ritalin again. 

Soccer fans, stop the knee jerk reaction about the "haters" who bash soccer.  I can't tell you how many times I've heard soccer fans, myself include, see above, bash other sports.  How many soccer fans refer to American football as "pointy ball" or "gridball" or some other term?  Realistically, I think soccer gets the bashing it does while other minor sports don't is because sports like ski racing understand they are minor sports in this county and don't expect to be treated like they are major sports.  Let's face it, it will be a long time before soccer is on the level of the NFL.  Super Bowl Sunday may as well be a national holiday.  And really, football didn't replace baseball as our true national sport until about the 1960s (I would say starting with Super Bowl III with Namath and Unitas).  Soccer, I think, will eventually get to the point where it can challenge football's supremacy, but it will take time.  I think really, it will take the United States being competitive internationally (not just in North America either, nobody gives a shit about beating Mexico twice a year).  The US needs also an American spokesman for the game, not some pretty boy, has-been Englishman who is just pushing his brand name.  Americans want a winner and want an American winner.  Where oh where did the pre-injury Clint Mathis go?  The one who was a great player and had the personality to really have an appeal other than to a bunch of prissy metrosexuals.  Sorry, Landon Donovan is not that person, I think our only real hope is Jozy Altidore in the near future.  Other than him, there aren't many on the horizon who can fit that mold.

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    • 3/23/2008 5:09 PM Ethan wrote:
      How about a Dema/Jim Rome interview? If Dema doesn't like it, he breaks Rome's legs, IN studio?
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    • 3/25/2008 11:01 AM EmeraldCityGooner wrote:
      Very interesting piece today. Let's chew it bit by bit, shall we?

      First, I think Rome is the mouthpiece for a lot of Americans. They look at the sport, perhaps take in a game or two, get frustrated that those two games are draws, are ultimately bored whilst sitting with soccer moms and their kids and say "to Hell with this sport." Honestly. This is what happens. It took my dad one full year of coming to every game and drinking/singing with our Ultras to finally let the game into his heart. How did this happen? Because people that understood it and wanted to help the sport grow found someone and let them into the fold. That is how you influence folks. Make them wanna hang with you. Make their experience, with you, better than it would be with the WAGS, soccer moms and their kids.

      Next, the B-Rock piece. Most sports journalists don't get footy. See above. It's the same damn thing. Don't just bitch. Invite B-Rock to hang with RCB. Grab him some beers. Make it a good day at the park for him. Make friends. It's always good to have a media ally.

      Last, the face of US Soccer. Landon Donovan is ok, but he needs a little more grit under his nails. I wish Keller or Howard were over here. They would be the domestic face and make everyone forget about Becks. Keller is outright class and does funny stuff to antagonize opponents supporters groups. That would make the news here.

      But ultimately you're right. I see it eventually being Altidore or Adu. Bradley seems to be an outside shot. I love all three of those kids and will be kewl with any one of them.

      Cheers!
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      1. 3/25/2008 10:08 PM RCB Donk wrote:
        I really didn't have much of an issue with Rock's article, other than his comment about soccer being boring, he was saying most stuff he could have easily pulled off of bigsoccer.com or any number of other places. 

        As for bringing a friend, I totally agree.  I started attending matches because a friend in Prague, who was a Sparta Ultra invited me.  While I didn't agree with their ultra right-wing politics, I did like going to matches with them.  The truly great thing about soccer is that you can have the Ultra type fan along with the soccer mom/youth team people all together and they can all have a great time. 

        As for Howard, much as I like Tim, the face of American soccer really needs to be a goal scorer.  Howard is a great goalkeeper, has great personality, but he's a goalkeeper, Americans want scoring people that's why offensive linemen in football aren't the spokesmen for the NFL, even though I personally prefer to watch what they do as compared to the running backs.  Keller is too old to be the face of US soccer, plus he's a goalkeeper.  Keller, in my opinion should have retired a couple of years ago.  As for Adu, I saw the Freddy show when it was in town.  Really got sick of the hype and no results.  I think half was Freddy's fault (he really didn't play very hard when he did play and never really did play, most of the time he would just lose the ball when someone put a body on him) and the other half was the coaching staff, whether Kreis or Ellinger who would never accept him for what he was.  He honestly didn't really have the personality needed to make an impact.  I hope he turns into the great player he has the potential to become, but right now the jury there is still out.  Altidore, I think he has the personality, just not sure if he's going to stick around MLS (in fact I highly doubt he will considering that Europe is where the money is).  For him to be that guy, really he would have to dominate Europe.  We need someone that can be respected as one of the best players in the world.  Right now, if I was choosing a world's best XI, I can't think of a single American I would put on that list.  That's the big key.  It will never be America's game until America dominates and Americans are dominate worldwide.  As for Bradley, he's yet another preppy punk kid who has no real wide appeal aside from other people like him.  I think he could be the US answer at d-mid in the future, provided his showing against Mexico does not become the rule rather than the exception.  Even then, I don't think he even gets consideration as one of the top d-mids worldwide, I wouldn't put him in the top 20. 



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